Comments on: X11 Full Screen Support broken in Leopard, other changes, using Tiger’s X11… http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/ IRAF and More - For Mac Using Astronomers and Astrophysicists Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:31:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: mmhere123456 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20204 mmhere123456 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:40:39 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20204 <p>another reason not to use the Leopard X11 is that LBX (low bandwidth X) is apparently not supported. This feature is a complete MUST for me, as my home 'broadband' connection, while high bandwith, unfortunately carries pretty high latency between home and work.</p> <p>Without LBX enabled, apps running at work and being displayed on Leopard X11 at home can take 45-60 seconds (!) for the initial window to appear.</p> <p>Because the default X protocol [without using LBX] is extremely chatty and sends a large number of tiny packets in a very interactive manner, it can be very slow across high latency links. LBX solves this problem.</p> <p>I could live w/o full screen support, but no LBX is hideously bad!</p> another reason not to use the Leopard X11 is that LBX (low bandwidth X) is apparently not supported. This feature is a complete MUST for me, as my home ‘broadband’ connection, while high bandwith, unfortunately carries pretty high latency between home and work.

Without LBX enabled, apps running at work and being displayed on Leopard X11 at home can take 45-60 seconds (!) for the initial window to appear.

Because the default X protocol [without using LBX] is extremely chatty and sends a large number of tiny packets in a very interactive manner, it can be very slow across high latency links. LBX solves this problem.

I could live w/o full screen support, but no LBX is hideously bad!

]]> By: michaelgalloy.com » Leopard http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20154 michaelgalloy.com » Leopard Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:21:56 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20154 <p>[...] It appears that using Tigers X11.app should fix it for now. Link.   [...]</p> […] It appears that using Tigers X11.app should fix it for now. Link.   […]

]]> By: Marcos http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20124 Marcos Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:42:04 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20124 <p>Bah, I'm getting the eternal bouncing second X11 thing too. I don't know why. THe only work around I've found is to "show package" contents of X11.app and make an alias of the "MacOS/X11" file. Double clicking on that launches the terminal and launches x11.app but ... at least there's only one in the dock.</p> Bah, I’m getting the eternal bouncing second X11 thing too. I don’t know why. THe only work around I’ve found is to “show package” contents of X11.app and make an alias of the “MacOS/X11″ file. Double clicking on that launches the terminal and launches x11.app but … at least there’s only one in the dock.

]]> By: Scott Michael http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20105 Scott Michael Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:39:31 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20105 <p>On my first attempt I neglected to remove the Leopard X11.app from /Applications/Utilities. Needless to say the launcher got really confused. After this I removed everything I could find in /usr/ and /etc/ relating to X11. I then followed the steps and was able to get a working Tiger X11 but still have the two icons in my dock. One works the other says Application Not Responding when I right click. If I "Show in Finder" it shows me /Applications/Utilities/X11.app for either one. So either I'm starting two instances of the same thing and they aren't happy with each other. Or two different things, one which works, the other doesn't.</p> On my first attempt I neglected to remove the Leopard X11.app from /Applications/Utilities. Needless to say the launcher got really confused. After this I removed everything I could find in /usr/ and /etc/ relating to X11. I then followed the steps and was able to get a working Tiger X11 but still have the two icons in my dock. One works the other says Application Not Responding when I right click. If I “Show in Finder” it shows me /Applications/Utilities/X11.app for either one. So either I’m starting two instances of the same thing and they aren’t happy with each other. Or two different things, one which works, the other doesn’t.

]]> By: Marcos http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20104 Marcos Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:25:21 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20104 <p>hmm. I'd think if you had uninstalled the leopard x11 you'd be ok. Is there still an X11.app file in /usr/X11 or wherever? You could also check the x11-users archive; there's a lot of discussion there. Can you "reveal in finder" the endless bouncing icon? see what's going on as in where it's from.</p> <p>THere may be some plist still causing problems with launchd.</p> <p>When I get home I'm going to try all this on my Macbook and I can report if I got it working.</p> hmm. I’d think if you had uninstalled the leopard x11 you’d be ok. Is there still an X11.app file in /usr/X11 or wherever? You could also check the x11-users archive; there’s a lot of discussion there. Can you “reveal in finder” the endless bouncing icon? see what’s going on as in where it’s from.

THere may be some plist still causing problems with launchd.

When I get home I’m going to try all this on my Macbook and I can report if I got it working.

]]> By: Scott Michael http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20103 Scott Michael Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:06:52 +0000 http://macsingularity.org/2007/10/29/x11-full-screen-support-broken-in-leopard-other-changes-using-tigers-x11/#comment-20103 <p>This is a great tip! I'd much rather use X11 from Tiger than try to fix the (broken) X11 included in Leopard. However, if I follow the instructions above, when I open the X11.app in /Applications/Utilities I get two icons in the dock. One which is the X11 I want and starts an xterm right away, the other just keeps bouncing and bouncing. Any idea how to get rid of this second one? I'm not sure if I didn't completely remove it or what exactly happened, also I'm not sure how to find out what it's trying to execute.</p> This is a great tip! I’d much rather use X11 from Tiger than try to fix the (broken) X11 included in Leopard. However, if I follow the instructions above, when I open the X11.app in /Applications/Utilities I get two icons in the dock. One which is the X11 I want and starts an xterm right away, the other just keeps bouncing and bouncing. Any idea how to get rid of this second one? I’m not sure if I didn’t completely remove it or what exactly happened, also I’m not sure how to find out what it’s trying to execute.

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